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Hello all,</p>
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Sweta, thank you for your words and I acknowledge the emotional and intellectual labor that I know went into writing them—especially considering some of the views that have been expressed on this email thread.</p>
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Thank you all (I can’t name you all) who have shared research and teaching materials, offered support to our international students, and publicly and privately advocated for our international students.<span> </span></p>
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Let me say this clearly and unequivocally: we will provide no space for oppression in the ATTW forum or within the organization. This includes oppressive rhetoric—language, “dialogue,” symbols, values or beliefs. Systemically (and systematically) marginalized
folks—which include our international students—will not be made to feel less valuable or expendable. And right now (and as always), we are navigating the academy while dealing with intersecting oppression from within our institutions and in our day-to-day
lives (during a global pandemic, no less). ATTW has a code of ethics that makes clear our responsibilities to our students (ALL OF OUR STUDENTS), to our field, to practitioners and beyond. Our code of ethics dictates that we acknowledge our responsibilities
and put them into practice in good faith.</p>
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That aside, I am personally committed to anti-racist, anti-oppressive practices in our organizations and our spaces and places of practices (including our classrooms). I’d like to think everyone in our field is. But, I am aware that academia is often plagued
by neoliberal, racist, ableist, xenophobic, patriarchal, heteronormative (yes, all of that and more) views that masquerade as objective and neutral “dialogue” and “debate.”<span> </span></p>
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There is no debate or dialogue about the value of people, the right of people to live a life unencumbered by bias and hate, the right of people to feel protected, safe, healthy, and heard. Those are not debates. What makes me so very tired is that we have to
keep saying this! Every time another marginalized group speaks out (whether international students, BIPOC, nonbinary folks, trans folks, disabled folks and so on) we have to do the labor of explaining why folks:</p>
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-should support and advocate for and with us after genuinely listening to us</p>
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-should not debate our humanity, protection, safety, and right to do more than just survive</p>
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-should see and celebrate difference</p>
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-should not capitalize on our pain and suffering with CFPs and the like during times of our crisis</p>
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-should create and protect spaces for marginalized voices to be heard and privileged</p>
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-should acknowledge, value, cite, and publish our research</p>
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-should resist status quo, business-as-usual practices in our classrooms, orgs, and institutions</p>
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-should make sure our assignments, course outcomes and activities are justice-oriented and ethically sound (thank you for the sharing of materials here!)</p>
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-should do more than just issue statements of support</p>
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-should use your imagination to do more, do better, BE BETTER!</p>
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Why? Because our lives and our livelihood are at stake!<span> </span></p>
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These are not rhetorical questions that we are dealing with (What do we “do” with international students? What do we mean when we say Black Lives Matter? What do we think about land acknowledgements? Should we advocate for gender neutral bathrooms on our campuses?).
Yes, pedagogical approaches and theoretical frames are important. But, this moves beyond pedagogical approaches and theoretical frameworks. This is about more than just espoused institutional and organizational values. It’s about our lives! This is not about
making mistakes. We all do that (and I do indeed acknowledge that we learn from mistakes and can be better). I want folks to call out my mistakes so<i><span> </span>I<span> </span></i>can do better. None of us are experts in everything (and I’d argue that
NONE of us are experts in social justice—or we wouldn’t be having these same discussions because we would have had this figured out). But this conversation that we are having right now, fundamentally—this conversation is about engaging in ways that don’t assume
that arguments about politics are somehow separate from arguments about what happens in our lives—what happens
<i>TO</i> us.<span> </span></p>
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Our personal is political.</p>
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Sweta just wrote a kindly worded email to our list. She is a graduate student. She is an international student. Her positioning is precarious and she is keenly aware of the powerful voices that read this list (scholars who might have an impact on her career,
the success of her publications, her mentorship opportunities, even her earning potential in the form of salary, etc.). Despite the precarity that she is in, she has had to take time to write this list to express her concerns about what is going on in our
field (and in our institutions) and how this is playing out on our list. She could be researching. She could be writing. She could be taking care of herself, but she is writing to us! This impacts her life!<span> </span></p>
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If we say that we are a humanistic field, let’s try really valuing human life and human dignity and putting those espoused beliefs into practice in our organizations, classrooms, institutions, and areas of influence. Let’s try reflecting on the ways we can
do better individually and as a field. Let’s try radical honesty (read Dr. Cecilia Shelton’s "Shifting out of Neutral") in our classrooms, in our organizations and also being radically honest about where and when we fall short. Let’s try a collective and coalitional
approach to thinking through solutions for making our field genuinely more inclusive, safe for all,<span> </span><span> </span>and more welcoming.<span> </span></p>
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Natasha<span> </span></p>
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1. Re: the ICE memo on international students<br>
(Karabinus, Alisha Dianne)<br>
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 16:43:11 +0000<br>
From: "Karabinus, Alisha Dianne" <akarabin@purdue.edu><br>
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Chris, I wanted to echo the thank-yous for sending this out. I just got a chance to dig into this more and it?s a deeply interesting activity with a great reading alongside.<br>
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From: ATTW-L <attw-l-bounces@attw.org> on behalf of Chris Lindgren <lindgren@vt.edu><br>
Date: Friday, July 10, 2020 at 8:46 AM<br>
To: "Obrien, April" <aprilobrien@shsu.edu>, "attw-l@attw.org" <attw-l@attw.org><br>
Subject: Re: [ATTW-L] the ICE memo on international students<br>
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Hello everyone,<br>
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I wanted to write my support for international students. I can't think of a more prominent role as an educator than the extension of care and practice of justice.<br>
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I also wanted to share my appreciation for the response by our leadership and other ATTW members here. Thank you!<br>
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And, in the spirit of the original intent in sharing the memo, I'll share a related anti-racist activity for those who teach content strategy.<br>
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This lesson focuses on introducing students to 1) how content strategy isn't a neutral practice; 2) requires research and knowledge about social-political contexts and issues linked to the organization; and 3) how content strategists can develop anti-racist
content audit metrics to address issues of racism. These are all goals that are seriously lacking in the currently available scholarship and resources.<br>
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I use the DHS ICE website<<a href=""></a>https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ice.gov/__;!!HXCxUKc!m-jd7wZzGA4DtP5V_B08NEXYOaVyi7D8HPOa1DCwnswCraiaSBfLbTn186gU5BRG$ > as a case of racist content prioritization. My students and I analyzed it's content priorities
on both English and Spanish sites last semester and found some despicable choices within minutes. Just as a quick example,<br>
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* The content itself has notable issues, which can be placed into context by preparing research about immigration and interrogating the oppressive use of the illegal/legal binary that frames the entire site's content. This helps me guide a conversation
about the importance of social, cultural and political knowledge within the scope of TPC work.<br>
* Regarding content prioritization, note how numerous content tabs are removed from the Spanish version of the site, including the "How do I?" tab. Students noticed how this tab included career opportunities and other content, which, when contrasted against
the complete removal of it on the Spanish version of the site, highlights their racist bent that hinges on user language literacy.<br>
I paired it with the chapter on "Oppression" from Moore, Howard, and Jones' book, and a modified table from their TCQ article, "Disrupting the past to disrupt the future" dubbed "Tenets of inclusive work." This way, students could take insights from the chapter
and activity to develop their own content audit metrics informed by anti-racist goals, which is the major project that I use this activity to prepare them to perform next.<br>
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Solidarity to everyone. I appreciate the anti-racist goal-making and practices that our field is producing and advocating. That's where my heart and energy is working too.<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
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Chris<br>
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:43 AM Obrien, April <aprilobrien@shsu.edu<mailto:aprilobrien@shsu.edu>> wrote:<br>
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I just want to verbalize my support for all the international students and POC (those of who are a part of ATTW and all else as well) and say that YOU ARE WELCOME here. Collectively, as a nation and as academics, we are responsible for the well being of all
our people.<br>
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Dr. April O'Brien<br>
Assistant Professor<br>
Technical Communication<br>
Department of English<br>
Sam Houston State University<br>
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On Jul 9, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Temptaous Mckoy <temptaous56@gmail.com<mailto:temptaous56@gmail.com>> wrote:<br>
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Hey Everyone!!<br>
Cagle and Cana, thank you for speaking up here. I would like to mention, I was a bit thrown off to see a colleague suggest they are not responsible for the overall well being and educational outcomes for international students. Elizabeth, would you mind speaking
more to what you mean here? I do not want to misunderstand your ideas.<br>
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Temptaous<br>
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On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 5:46 PM Cana Itchuaqiyaq <croscana@isu.edu<mailto:croscana@isu.edu>> wrote:<br>
Hello,<br>
This conversation is teetering on the edge of being on the level of some of the racist and xenophobic threads on the wpa-l.<br>
<br>
As Dr. Dragga notes, this memo is a great case study of technical communication?s effect on populations.<br>
<br>
Please do not make the professional spaces in our field unsafe for international scholars.<br>
<br>
In solidarity,<br>
Cana Uluak Itchuaqiyaq<br>
Tribal member, Noorvik Native Community<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 3:30 PM Cagle, Lauren E. <lauren.cagle@uky.edu<mailto:lauren.cagle@uky.edu>> wrote:<br>
Hi all,<br>
<br>
Joseph, I just want to be clear I understand you. Are you suggesting that international students are gaming immigration status to the detriment of US workers, and therefore the current ICE rule is acceptable?<br>
<br>
Cagle<br>
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To: Tebeaux, Elizabeth D <e-tebeaux@tamu.edu<mailto:e-tebeaux@tamu.edu>>; attw-l@attw.org<<a href="mailto:attw-l@attw.org">mailto:attw-l@attw.org</a>> <attw-l@attw.org<mailto:attw-l@attw.org>>; Kain, Donna <KAIND@ecu.edu<mailto:KAIND@ecu.edu>><br>
Subject: Re: [ATTW-L] the ICE memo on international students<br>
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CAUTION: External Sender<br>
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International students currently use the OPT as a transitional period to get hired legally and then, while on an OPT, apply for the H-1B to change immigrations status, I believe.<br>
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Joseph<br>
On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 03:46:51 PM EDT, Kain, Donna <kaind@ecu.edu<mailto:kaind@ecu.edu>> wrote:<br>
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Respectfully, if we have responsibility for any of our students' educational outcomes, then we have responsibility for all our students' educational outcomes. (Our accrediting agency seems to think we are responsible.) As far as relying on international students
to stay afloat, that's above my pay grade. I'm concerned about the students who are here, not why they're here.<br>
<br>
Harvard and MIT are suing: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/07/08/harvard-mit-international-students-ice/__;!!HXCxUKc!m-jd7wZzGA4DtP5V_B08NEXYOaVyi7D8HPOa1DCwnswCraiaSBfLbTn181Ylvq39$">
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Harvard, pictured here, joined MIT in suing the Trump administration over a rule barring international students from coming to the United States to attend colleges offering only online classes.<br>
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From: Tebeaux, Elizabeth D <e-tebeaux@tamu.edu<mailto:e-tebeaux@tamu.edu>><br>
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 2:24 PM<br>
To: Kain, Donna <KAIND@ecu.edu<mailto:KAIND@ecu.edu>><br>
Subject: Re: [ATTW-L] the ICE memo on international students<br>
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This email originated from outside ECU.<br>
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No we are not. They have to achieve on their own. Accrediting agencies require DE support services. We have resident support services, but we are not responsible for their welfare and educational outcomes.<br>
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I believe that universities have relied too long in intl students. With the coming student shortage, Colleges will have to cope or close. Providing DE programs for US working adults?graduate and certificate?is the way to go. That?s a deep market.<br>
<br>
Elizabeth Tebeaux<br>
ATTW Fellow/<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
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On Jul 8, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Kain, Donna <KAIND@ecu.edu<mailto:KAIND@ecu.edu>> wrote:<br>
Those are possible explanations. However, as long as we invite students to this country to study, we have a responsibility for their overall welfare and educational outcomes.<br>
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________________________________<br>
Donna Kain, Ph.D.<br>
Associate Professor<br>
Director of Undergraduate Studies<br>
Department of English, East Carolina University<br>
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Subject: Re: [ATTW-L] the ICE memo on international students<br>
<br>
This email originated from outside ECU.<br>
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The ICE memo likely is in keeping with the administration's policy of protecting American jobs.<br>
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The top two contributing countries for international students are India (from India the number currently, if I am right, may be close to 200,000) and China (possibly higher than India's) and it is the understanding that many of them post graduation move on
to OPT and then H-1B.<br>
<br>
The H-1 B is meant to bring in overseas workers for filling in jobs that cannot be filled by US nationals, but American workers have argued that that is not the case.<br>
<br>
In addition, the Obama administration also allowed the H-4 (spousal visa) to be used as a work visa (possibly in 2015) and currently there may be around 127,000 or so who have entered the US job market as a result.<br>
<br>
The above is in addition to jobs outsourced. (If I am right, a few years ago IBM's biggest workforce of possibly 120,000 or so may have been India.)<br>
<br>
Because of Covid-19 and high unemployment levels, I think, the administration has put a stop on processing all work visas (H-1B and and other types as well I think, including the H-4).<br>
<br>
Joseph<br>
On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 02:54:08 PM EDT, Dragga, Sam <sam.dragga@ttu.edu<mailto:sam.dragga@ttu.edu>> wrote:<br>
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If you are looking for a striking example of technical writing with a direct impact on your classrooms, consider the memo released yesterday by the US Department of Homeland Security (<a href=""></a>https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ice.gov/doclib/sevis/pdf/bcm2007-01.pdf__;!!HXCxUKc!m-jd7wZzGA4DtP5V_B08NEXYOaVyi7D8HPOa1DCwnswCraiaSBfLbTn18-DLoc2j$
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The memo explains to college administrators that their international (nonimmigrant) students musttake either onsite courses or a mix of onsite and online courses in the Fall 2020 semester to remain in the United States.<br>
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In addition to raising awareness of the extraordinary conditions for international students, the memo offers the opportunity to discuss clarity in writing (e.g., note the 33-word opening sentence in the 116-word opening paragraph but also the headings and numbered
or bulleted lists).<br>
<br>
And given the experience of the Spring 2020 semester and the ongoing COVID-19 crisis, the memo raises ethical questions about putting the following key piece of information in a 63-word sentence in the middle of a 151-word paragraph on page 2 of a 3-page memo
[italics mine]:<br>
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If a school changes its operational stance mid-semester, and as a result a nonimmigrant student switches to only online classes, or a nonimmigrant student changes their course selections, and as a result, ends up taking an entirely online course load, schools
are reminded that nonimmigrant students within the United States are not permitted to take a full course of study through online classes.<br>
<br>
Sam<br>
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