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<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Candara, Optima, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="elementToProof">Jonathan (and all),</span></div>
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<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Candara, Optima, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="elementToProof">I also think you are wise to keep incorporating at least one unit in your
course on hard-copy editing. You know, I believe this (perhaps minor) controversy about the right mode of editing is not unlike the debate about the pros and cons of a paperless society -- or the relative value for readers of eBooks versus traditional books.
I think there is an inherent value, at least for some purposes and some genres (or subject matter), in print-based communications that will never erased by electronic media. I may have to eat my words before my time on this planet is done, but I do think this
is true. That being said, I obviously see great value -- again, in certain work contexts -- for print-based or hard-copy editing.</span></div>
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<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Candara, Optima, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="elementToProof">Another analogy that I think supports my viewpoint is the tried-and-true
principle that all writers -- despite the fact that we all believe we see can see perfectly well what's on the printed page or the screen -- should
<i>read out loud what we've written</i>, at some point in our revising and editing process.</span></div>
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<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Candara, Optima, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="elementToProof">Furthermore, from my own workplace experience as a technical writer and
editor, I firmly believe that printing out a document and working with the hard-copy while revising, at least initially, is almost indispensable to the work of heavy or substantive editing (when whole paragraphs or sections need to be moved around or rearranged,
among other things). I know your question was about <i>editing </i>practices, but I bring up this point because there is sometimes a fine line between revising and editing, as we all know.</span></div>
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<p>I have taught professional editing and revising many times, and, while students in my courses edit text on their computers, I have also taught copyediting using editing symbols on print copy. </p>
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<p>I have done that because, among other things, I am not sure if it is easier to catch mistakes on print copy as opposed to text on an electronic backlit screen. <span style="font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
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<p>You could also get feedback, Jonathan, from the listserv for editors. </p>
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<p>Howdy, Hive Mind.</p>
<p>Thanks to everyone for your thoughtful and well-considered input about the value of teaching hard-copy markup. It seems that, in the long term, hard-copy markup is akin to buggy-whip braiding, but for now, it still holds some potential value; I'll keep teaching
the unit with the attitude of "you might find this useful" and reduce its grade weight.
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<p>Thanks again.</p>
<p>Jonathan Arnett<br>
Associate Professor of Technical Communication<br>
Department of Technical Communication & Interactive Design<br>
Kennesaw State University<br>
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<div class="x_PlainText">Hi, colleagues.<br>
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I have a question, and I'd like your input.<br>
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I'm updating my Technical Editing class, and I'm pondering whether to <br>
keep or cut the unit on hard-copy markup. I taught this unit in years <br>
past to good effect, but now that most editing is done electronically, I <br>
wonder if hard-copy markup is a dead skill.<br>
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If you were to (or if you actually do) teach a course on technical <br>
editing, would you teach hard-copy markup?<br>
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Thanks in advance for your thoughts.<br>
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Jonathan Arnett<br>
Associate Professor of Technical Communication<br>
Department of Technical Communication & Interactive Design<br>
Kennesaw State University<br>
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