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Thanks for kickstarting this thread! <i style="font-size:10pt; font-variant-ligatures:inherit; font-variant-caps:inherit; font-weight:inherit">The Copyeditor's Handbook</i><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Tahoma,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size:10pt"> (2019)
by Amy Einsohn and Marilyn Schwartz has a very compelling discussion about marking by hand: Marking by hand is still practiced in many publishing contexts and used in many pre-employment skills assessments (as Dina Lopez just noted!) especially for freelance
editors. The authors also list several instances when electronic copyediting is not an option. </span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Tahoma,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size:10pt">My students last Spring commented that they really like the copymarking module. Although I'm not clear about why they liked it, I will keep it in for now.</span><br>
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<div class="x_PlainText">Hi, colleagues.<br>
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I have a question, and I'd like your input.<br>
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I'm updating my Technical Editing class, and I'm pondering whether to <br>
keep or cut the unit on hard-copy markup. I taught this unit in years <br>
past to good effect, but now that most editing is done electronically, I <br>
wonder if hard-copy markup is a dead skill.<br>
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If you were to (or if you actually do) teach a course on technical <br>
editing, would you teach hard-copy markup?<br>
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Thanks in advance for your thoughts.<br>
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Jonathan Arnett<br>
Associate Professor of Technical Communication<br>
Department of Technical Communication & Interactive Design<br>
Kennesaw State University<br>
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