<div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="auto"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Hi Luke and all,</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I teach a nonprofit-engaged version of Grant and Proposal writing for MA students, and have found that students really like the book I've been using, which has not yet been mentioned in this conversation: <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9)">Howlett and Bourque's </span><i style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9)"><a href="https://www.bvtpublishing.com/book/1197">Getting funded: The complete guide to writing grant proposals</a>. </i><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9)">It works well as a core text, especially when supplemented with some chapters from other readings (here's <a href="https://lisadush.com/wrd-526-aq23/">the list</a> from this autumn's course). </span></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9)"><br></span></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9)">I'm also very glad to hear that we'll soon get a new edition of <i>Writing proposals</i>! The first two chapters of that book have been so helpful as early readings that establish a rhetorical approach to grant writing.<br></span></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-family:arial,sans-serif">Best,</span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-family:arial,sans-serif">Lisa</span><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></font></div></div></div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 12:01 PM Timothy Giles <<a href="mailto:tgiles@georgiasouthern.edu" target="_blank">tgiles@georgiasouthern.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I too used Rich's proposal writing text last semester that he graciously supplied, and I look forward to the new edition. He is not the first author to flee Allyn & Bacon.<div>Tim</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:44 AM Huiling Ding <<a href="mailto:hding@ncsu.edu" target="_blank">hding@ncsu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">You are absolutely correct, Steve! </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thank you, Rick, for making Writing Proposals 2e available for free to faculty and students. I am sure many of us have benefited from using your excellent book and look forward to seeing W<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">riting Proposals 3e in print soon with AI applications incorporated into the grant writing workflow. </span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">All the best.</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Huiling </span></font></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:33 AM Stephen Bernhardt <<a href="mailto:sab@udel.edu" target="_blank">sab@udel.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">A model of professional, collegial behavior.<br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Steve Bernhardt<br>Bayside DE</div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 20, 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Because of this conversation on the ATTW listserv, many people have been asking about the availability of Writing Proposals. So, I'll speak up at the risk of sounding self-promotional.</div>
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Writing Proposals, 3e, should be available for the Fall semester from a new publisher. Also, I have been making Writing Proposals 2e available for free to faculty and students, if people want to use it in their classes. I can share a PDF version through Google
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The final draft of Writing Today, 3e, is now finished. Paul Hunter has joined me as a co-author. In this new edition, we incorporated artificial intelligence as a tool for writing and designing proposals and grants, along with many other new issues and strategies. </div>
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I've been writing, editing, and consulting on proposals and grants for many years, but I'm really excited about what's happening right now in this area. The new edition tries to capture these emerging developments, even though we're all just taking educated
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Proposals and Grants has always been one of my favorite courses to teach. If you aren't offering this course at your university, I highly recommend proposing it. This course is always in high demand on college campuses. </div>
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<b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Subject:</b> Re: [ATTW-L] Advice on grant writing textbooks</font>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 2:25 PM Rice, Rich <<a href="mailto:Rich.Rice@ttu.edu" target="_blank">Rich.Rice@ttu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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Karsh/Fox is good. I find ATTW's Mikelonis/Betsinger/Kampf still great. There's a need for an update to that book, and I'm working on that, actually. Please stay tuned. Happy to share my syllabus, too; please email me off-list at
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<b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sent:</b> Monday, February 19, 2024 1:08 PM<br>
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Teena's recommendations are good ones. I've used the Karsh and Fox book several times along with examples from Candid  (formerly the Foundation Center).  </div>
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Prior to using it, I found the Foundation Center's <i style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">Guide to Proposal Writing (last ed was 6<sup style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">th</sup> in 2012)
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Every time I've taught the course (since 2002, when I initiated it in our program), we've had community partners. They found the books spoke to their experiences and were easy to use in consultation with students.</div>
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I use “The only grant-writing book you will ever need” by Karsh and Fox. The information is very good and the text is easy to read. It was also available as an inclusive e-book in Canvas, so it was easy for students to access. It does not include examples or
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<b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sent:</b> Sunday, February 18, 2024 10:52 AM<br>
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I was recently asked to teach our grant writing course for this upcoming summer. As some background, it is a masters-level course, but the students probably will not have prior grant writing experience. We will meet in person for six weeks. Enrollment typically
 includes students from our Master's in Writing and Rhetoric as well as from graduate degrees in other departments. We will also have community partners for the course, so the focus will be on grant writing for non-profits rather than academic research funding.</p>
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Unfortunately, I need to make a textbook decision by next week, so I would greatly appreciate any recommendations you have. Additionally, if anyone has course syllabi or other resources you would be willing to share, that would be tremendously helpful as I
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