[ATTW-L] Advice on grant writing textbooks

Tue Feb 20 15:33:37 UTC 2024

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Steve Bernhardt
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On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:26 AM Johnson, Richard D <rjohnso at purdue.edu>
wrote:

> Thank you for the call out, Huiling,
>
> Because of this conversation on the ATTW listserv, many people have been
> asking about the availability of Writing Proposals. So, I'll speak up at
> the risk of sounding self-promotional.
>
> Writing Proposals, 3e, should be available for the Fall semester from a
> new publisher. Also, I have been making Writing Proposals 2e available for
> free to faculty and students, if people want to use it in their classes. I
> can share a PDF version through Google Drive with anyone who asks. (Please
> respond directly to me, so we aren't junking up the ATTW listserv.)
>
> Here's what happened. The original publisher was selling 2e for a
> prohibitively high price, so I told them I would not develop Writing
> Proposals, 3e, if they planned to charge so much for the book. The 2e was
> still selling quite well, but I couldn't stomach the idea that students
> were paying so much for a paperback book that was getting out of date.
>
> When they wouldn't agree to a much lower price, I asked for the copyright
> back.
>
> The final draft of Writing Today, 3e, is now finished. Paul Hunter has
> joined me as a co-author. In this new edition, we incorporated artificial
> intelligence as a tool for writing and designing proposals and grants,
> along with many other new issues and strategies.
>
> I've been writing, editing, and consulting on proposals and grants for
> many years, but I'm really excited about what's happening right now in this
> area. The new edition tries to capture these emerging developments, even
> though we're all just taking educated guesses about the full capabilities
> of generative AI.
>
> I'm also willing to share any of my classroom materials (syllabi,
> assignments, worksheets, etc.) if people want them.
>
> Proposals and Grants has always been one of my favorite courses to teach.
> If you aren't offering this course at your university, I highly recommend
> proposing it. This course is always in high demand on college campuses.
>
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> *From:* ATTW-L <attw-l-bounces at attw.org> on behalf of Huiling Ding <
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> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 4:15 PM
> *To:* Rice, Rich <Rich.Rice at ttu.edu>
> *Cc:* Attw-l at attw.org <Attw-l at attw.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [ATTW-L] Advice on grant writing textbooks
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> Hi Luke,
>
> I find Richard Johnson-Sheehan's (2008) Writing Proposals helpful because
> of its focus on rhetorical analysis.
>
> All the best.
>
> Huiling
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 2:25 PM Rice, Rich <Rich.Rice at ttu.edu> wrote:
>
> Karsh/Fox is good. I find ATTW's Mikelonis/Betsinger/Kampf still great.
> There's a need for an update to that book, and I'm working on that,
> actually. Please stay tuned. Happy to share my syllabus, too; please email
> me off-list at rich.rice at ttu.edu.
>
> Rich
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> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 1:08 PM
> *To:* Carnegie, Teena <tcarnegie at ewu.edu>; Luke Thominet <lthomine at fiu.edu>;
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> Hi Luke,
>
> Teena's recommendations are good ones. I've used the Karsh and Fox book
> several times along with examples from Candid  (formerly the Foundation
> Center).
>
> Prior to using it, I found the Foundation Center's *Guide to Proposal
> Writing (last ed was 6th in 2012) *offered good advice.  For examples,
> even if a bit old,  older books from the Foundation Center (*Guide to
> Writing Proposals* and *After the Grant*) also proved useful,
> particularly if some students are working in nonprofits or planning to do
> so.
>
> Every time I've taught the course (since 2002, when I initiated it in our
> program), we've had community partners. They found the books spoke to their
> experiences and were easy to use in consultation with students.
>
> Jim
> James M. Dubinsky, PhD
> Associate Professor, Director, Professional and Technical Writing Program
> Co-Chair, VT Veterans in Society Initiative
> Fellow & Past President, Association for Business Communication (ABC)
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> *From:* ATTW-L <attw-l-bounces at attw.org> on behalf of Carnegie, Teena <
> tcarnegie at ewu.edu>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 12:51 PM
> *To:* Luke Thominet <lthomine at fiu.edu>; Attw-l at attw.org <Attw-l at attw.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [ATTW-L] Advice on grant writing textbooks
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> I use “The only grant-writing book you will ever need” by Karsh and Fox.
> The information is very good and the text is easy to read. It was also
> available as an inclusive e-book in Canvas, so it was easy for students to
> access. It does not include examples or models, so it does need some
> additional resources.
>
> Candid.org has examples at
>
> https://learning.candid.org/resources/sample-documents/
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> Teena Carnegie, Ph.D.
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> Director, BA in Technical Communication
>
> Department of English and Philosophy
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> Eastern Washington University
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> Past-President, CPTSC
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> *From:* ATTW-L <attw-l-bounces at attw.org> *On Behalf Of *Luke Thominet
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 18, 2024 10:52 AM
> *To:* Attw-l at attw.org
> *Subject:* [ATTW-L] Advice on grant writing textbooks
>
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>
> Greetings Colleagues,
>
>
>
> I was recently asked to teach our grant writing course for this upcoming
> summer. As some background, it is a masters-level course, but the students
> probably will not have prior grant writing experience. We will meet in
> person for six weeks. Enrollment typically includes students from our
> Master's in Writing and Rhetoric as well as from graduate degrees in other
> departments. We will also have community partners for the course, so the
> focus will be on grant writing for non-profits rather than academic
> research funding.
>
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>
> Unfortunately, I need to make a textbook decision by next week, so I would
> greatly appreciate any recommendations you have. Additionally, if anyone
> has course syllabi or other resources you would be willing to share, that
> would be tremendously helpful as I structure this course.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your expertise and advice!
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Luke
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>
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