[ATTW-L] Advice on grant writing textbooks

Tue Feb 20 14:36:43 UTC 2024

Thank you for the call out, Huiling,

Because of this conversation on the ATTW listserv, many people have been asking about the availability of Writing Proposals. So, I'll speak up at the risk of sounding self-promotional.

Writing Proposals, 3e, should be available for the Fall semester from a new publisher. Also, I have been making Writing Proposals 2e available for free to faculty and students, if people want to use it in their classes. I can share a PDF version through Google Drive with anyone who asks. (Please respond directly to me, so we aren't junking up the ATTW listserv.)

Here's what happened. The original publisher was selling 2e for a prohibitively high price, so I told them I would not develop Writing Proposals, 3e, if they planned to charge so much for the book. The 2e was still selling quite well, but I couldn't stomach the idea that students were paying so much for a paperback book that was getting out of date.

When they wouldn't agree to a much lower price, I asked for the copyright back.

The final draft of Writing Today, 3e, is now finished. Paul Hunter has joined me as a co-author. In this new edition, we incorporated artificial intelligence as a tool for writing and designing proposals and grants, along with many other new issues and strategies.

I've been writing, editing, and consulting on proposals and grants for many years, but I'm really excited about what's happening right now in this area. The new edition tries to capture these emerging developments, even though we're all just taking educated guesses about the full capabilities of generative AI.

I'm also willing to share any of my classroom materials (syllabi, assignments, worksheets, etc.) if people want them.

Proposals and Grants has always been one of my favorite courses to teach. If you aren't offering this course at your university, I highly recommend proposing it. This course is always in high demand on college campuses.

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Hi Luke,

I find Richard Johnson-Sheehan's (2008) Writing Proposals helpful because of its focus on rhetorical analysis.

All the best.

Huiling

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 2:25 PM Rice, Rich <Rich.Rice at ttu.edu<mailto:Rich.Rice at ttu.edu>> wrote:
Karsh/Fox is good. I find ATTW's Mikelonis/Betsinger/Kampf still great. There's a need for an update to that book, and I'm working on that, actually. Please stay tuned. Happy to share my syllabus, too; please email me off-list at rich.rice at ttu.edu<mailto:rich.rice at ttu.edu>.

Rich

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Hi Luke,

Teena's recommendations are good ones. I've used the Karsh and Fox book several times along with examples from Candid  (formerly the Foundation Center).

Prior to using it, I found the Foundation Center's Guide to Proposal Writing (last ed was 6th in 2012) offered good advice.  For examples, even if a bit old,  older books from the Foundation Center (Guide to Writing Proposals and After the Grant) also proved useful, particularly if some students are working in nonprofits or planning to do so.

Every time I've taught the course (since 2002, when I initiated it in our program), we've had community partners. They found the books spoke to their experiences and were easy to use in consultation with students.

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I use “The only grant-writing book you will ever need” by Karsh and Fox. The information is very good and the text is easy to read. It was also available as an inclusive e-book in Canvas, so it was easy for students to access. It does not include examples or models, so it does need some additional resources.

Candid.org has examples at

https://learning.candid.org/resources/sample-documents/

Teena Carnegie, Ph.D.

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Department of English and Philosophy

Eastern Washington University

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Greetings Colleagues,

I was recently asked to teach our grant writing course for this upcoming summer. As some background, it is a masters-level course, but the students probably will not have prior grant writing experience. We will meet in person for six weeks. Enrollment typically includes students from our Master's in Writing and Rhetoric as well as from graduate degrees in other departments. We will also have community partners for the course, so the focus will be on grant writing for non-profits rather than academic research funding.

Unfortunately, I need to make a textbook decision by next week, so I would greatly appreciate any recommendations you have. Additionally, if anyone has course syllabi or other resources you would be willing to share, that would be tremendously helpful as I structure this course.

Thanks in advance for your expertise and advice!

All the best,

Luke

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