[ATTW-L] [EXT] technical editing class -- hard-copy markup?

Lopez, Dina Dina.Lopez at ttu.edu
Thu Jan 5 21:52:24 UTC 2023


From an industry standard: I work for a university press. To begin my job, I was given a hard-copy editing test. We often work with authors who do not have the technical skills to perform electronic edits on their manuscripts, so we keep both electronic and tactile skills fresh.

If I were teaching a technical editing class, I would make sure my students had both skills for their editing toolboxes. They wouldn't have to do everything in hard copy, but a page or two here or there with specific skills doesn't hurt.

Hope that helps!
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Dina Lopez, MA

PhD Candidate

Department of English |Technical Communication & Rhetoric

Graduate Assistant, TTU Press

https://lopeztechcomm.wordpress.com/

Texas Tech University

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I don’t actually teach technical editing, but I was wondering (and Caleb’s comment reinforced my question): is there some value to the tactile paper experience? Are students at risk of what McLuhan called ‘auto-amputation’, such that the skill itself will be lost?

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I direct students to the textbook chapter on hard copy markup, but I don't teach it.

As an editor in practice, I'll mark up hard copy at a coffee shop or something, but it's for myself and not a client. I transfer it to an electronic copy soon after. It is extra work, but it can be a therapeutic change of pace.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 4:29 PM Geoff Clegg <geoffrey.clegg at gmail.com<mailto:geoffrey.clegg at gmail.com>> wrote:
When I taught technical editing (as a five week summer course—it was brutal) I skipped hard copy since we were online. I focused more on electronic editing, editing guidelines and contract instead since my students wanted more of that.

I think some of my comm peers have started to move away from hard copy blue and red pens as well.

-Geoff

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:24 PM Smith, Jordan <Jordan.Smith2 at unt.edu<mailto:Jordan.Smith2 at unt.edu>> wrote:
Hi Jonathan,

I'm in the same boat having taught hard-copy markup in the past but wondering whether I should keep doing it. There are many other things I'd like to prioritize in my course this semester (for example, I'm thinking through how to include a unit on editing AI-assisted/generated writing), so I'm leaning toward leaving it out.

Hope that helps,

Jordan
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Subject: [EXT] [ATTW-L] technical editing class -- hard-copy markup?

Hi, colleagues.

I have a question, and I'd like your input.

I'm updating my Technical Editing class, and I'm pondering whether to
keep or cut the unit on hard-copy markup. I taught this unit in years
past to good effect, but now that most editing is done electronically, I
wonder if hard-copy markup is a dead skill.

If you were to (or if you actually do) teach a course on technical
editing, would you teach hard-copy markup?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Jonathan Arnett
Associate Professor of Technical Communication
Department of Technical Communication & Interactive Design
Kennesaw State University


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