[ATTW-L] [External] Re: [EXT] technical editing class -- hard-copy markup?

Joseph Robertshaw jwr0015 at uah.edu
Thu Jan 5 21:54:29 UTC 2023


Hello,
I have not taught hard copy markup except as a historical footnote. All the
industry folks I talk to say that it is a lost art.
We do one or two exercises in HC markup early in the semester, but then I
use it as a transition into how it was important but now nobody can read
it. And someone always says, "Well, what can they read?"
We then dive into Word, Google Docs, and Adobe DC tools with that audience
focus.
Best,



On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:46 PM Robert Irish <r.irish at utoronto.ca> wrote:

> I don’t actually teach technical editing, but I was wondering (and Caleb’s
> comment reinforced my question): is there some value to the tactile paper
> experience? Are students at risk of what McLuhan called ‘auto-amputation’,
> such that the skill itself will be lost?
>
> Rob Irish
>
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> On Jan 5, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Caleb James <caleb.james at maine.edu> wrote:
>
> 
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> I direct students to the textbook chapter on hard copy markup, but I don't
> teach it.
>
> As an editor in practice, I'll mark up hard copy at a coffee shop or
> something, but it's for myself and not a client. I transfer it to an
> electronic copy soon after. It is extra work, but it can be a therapeutic
> change of pace.
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 4:29 PM Geoff Clegg <geoffrey.clegg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> When I taught technical editing (as a five week summer course—it was
>> brutal) I skipped hard copy since we were online. I focused more on
>> electronic editing, editing guidelines and contract instead since my
>> students wanted more of that.
>>
>> I think some of my comm peers have started to move away from hard copy
>> blue and red pens as well.
>>
>> -Geoff
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:24 PM Smith, Jordan <Jordan.Smith2 at unt.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>
>>> I'm in the same boat having taught hard-copy markup in the past but
>>> wondering whether I should keep doing it. There are many other things
>>> I'd like to prioritize in my course this semester (for example, I'm
>>> thinking through how to include a unit on editing AI-assisted/generated
>>> writing), so I'm leaning toward leaving it out.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>>
>>> Jordan
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>>> *Subject:* [EXT] [ATTW-L] technical editing class -- hard-copy markup?
>>>
>>> Hi, colleagues.
>>>
>>> I have a question, and I'd like your input.
>>>
>>> I'm updating my Technical Editing class, and I'm pondering whether to
>>> keep or cut the unit on hard-copy markup. I taught this unit in years
>>> past to good effect, but now that most editing is done electronically, I
>>> wonder if hard-copy markup is a dead skill.
>>>
>>> If you were to (or if you actually do) teach a course on technical
>>> editing, would you teach hard-copy markup?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
>>>
>>> Jonathan Arnett
>>> Associate Professor of Technical Communication
>>> Department of Technical Communication & Interactive Design
>>> Kennesaw State University
>>>
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